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Highlights—October 22, 2005
- Alliance@IBM: IBM Pension Lawsuit FAQ about Cooper v IBM.
Updated 10-22-05. By Janet Krueger. Excerpt: Below is a list of frequently asked questions about the class action lawsuit
against IBM's 1995 and 1999 pension plans. The answers are my personal opinions, have not been verified with either IBM
or plaintiffs’ counsel, and should not be construed as legal advice. On July 31, 2003, a federal district court judge
ruled in favor of the employees in this case. On September 28, 2004, IBM and the legal team on Cooper v IBM announced that
an agreement had been negotiated that settles some of the claims and set the amount of damages that IBM will pay to the
class if IBM's appeal of the district court's age discrimination rulings is unsuccessful. On August 16, 2005, after the
August 8 fairness hearing, Judge Murphy issued an order finalizing the settlement agreement. On August 30, 2005, IBM began
the appeals process by issuing their notice of appeal.
- Wall Street Journal: How Safe Are
Your Retiree Health Benefits? By Ellen Schultz. Excerpts: For instance, the retirees
most vulnerable to cutbacks are not union retirees -- like those affected by the GM move -- but former salaried employees.
And even if your retiree health coverage doesn't disappear, there is a growing danger the costs will rise so high that
you can't afford to pay the premiums. What's more, the new Medicare prescription-drug coverage, which was supposed to
ease the burden, is not likely to lower costs for most workers. [...]
The most vulnerable are former salaried employees. The courts have generally allowed employers to
reduce or eliminate the benefits for nonunion retirees, even years after they've retired, and even if they were promised
the benefits in writing. General Motors, for example, once promised lifetime health coverage to nonunion retirees, often
to encourage them to retire early. But then the company began cutting the benefits of 85,000 salaried retirees, and
they sued. In 1998, the Sixth Circuit appeals court ruled that even though GM advised prospective retirees that health
coverage would be provided "at GM's expense for your lifetime," a clause in the technical plan summary noted that
GM reserved the right to alter the benefits. After that key decision, salaried retirees, including those at Unisys Corp.,
have steadily lost their cases. Bottom line: If you're a salaried retiree, or will be one, your employer can cut your
benefits, even if promised in writing, as long as the plan has "reservation of rights" language in it. [...]
My premiums have quadrupled. Why? There are several likely reasons. At least half of employers,
including General Electric Co., Halliburton Inc. and IBM, have established ceilings on what they will pay for retirees'
coverage. Once this cap is reached, all the extra costs may be passed on to the retirees. Thanks to these caps, employers
are largely protected from rising health-care costs -- but retirees aren't. Meanwhile, many employers have begun to segregate
retirees into their own risk group, rather than include them in a larger group that includes active workers. When retirees
are segregated into their own pool, the per-capita costs rise, because an older, sicker population may need more medical
care. As costs rise, healthy people drop out to get cheaper coverage elsewhere. But sicker retirees, and those with pre-existing
conditions that make them uninsurable, remain in the health plan, driving up costs. When Xerox Corp. split the retirees
into a separate risk pool in 2003, the move caused retirees' costs to nearly double. Employers benefit when retirees drop
coverage. Not only do they save cash, but they can reverse a liability they have recorded for all the estimated future payments.
Under accounting rules, this generates gains that indirectly boost income.
- Washington Post: Government's
Disgrace. Excerpts: For a window on politics and all its failings, consider the current
fight over pension reform. It's a fight that reveals the cowardice of the Bush administration and the venality of Congress.
It demonstrates the government's inability to grapple seriously with public policy -- even when the case for action seems
too obvious to ignore. The story begins with the hole in the nation's defined-benefit pension plans, the type that --
unlike 401(k) plans -- promise a fixed proportion of salary upon retirement. The rules governing these plans are dysfunctional:
They allow companies to promise workers lavish benefits while setting aside too little money to pay those benefits when
the time comes. Rather than keep workers happy with wage increases, which would have to be paid for with real money, financially
pressed firms often bribe them with false promises of big pensions. When these firms go bust, employees get smaller pensions
than cynical managers had promised them. And taxpayers, who guarantee pensions up to some $45,000 per retiree, have to
rescue the bankrupt pension plans. [...]
Then they hit a speed bump. In the Senate, which had already thrashed out two bills, passed them
through two committees on a bipartisan basis and produced a "final" compromise, Sens. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) and
Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.) upset plans for a floor vote by demanding still more dilutions. These lacked majority backing,
so the senators exploited the Senate's absurd rules to block the legislation indefinitely until their business allies got
what they wanted.
You get a taste of the relationship between senators and lobbyists from an e-mail sent out by the
American Benefits Council on Oct. 7. "With the active support of the Council, Senator Mike DeWine (R-OH), along with
Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), continues to press for an amendment," the group reported to its members. "DeWine
called the Council to personally thank us for our steadfast support," it continued. That same day another business
lobby, the ERISA Industry Committee, informed its shock troops: "Sen. DeWine has directly asked for our help in getting
cosponsors" for his diluting amendment. Mr. DeWine and other senators will no doubt be rewarded for their efforts.
On Thursday the American Benefits Council will host a thank-you lunch for Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), the chairman of the Senate
pensions committee. The invitation includes a line that reads: "Requested contribution: $1,000 PAC/$500 personal."
- Yahoo! message board post by
Kathi Cooper Full excerpt: Future Health Account But some of us like to
refer to is as the Future Hell Account. It is a notational account in your name that contains IBM script that you use
after you retire to pay for your retiree medical premiums. IBM contributes to your notational account after you turn 40.
You must reach 30 years or age 55 with 15 years of service to get the script. IBM started the FHA in 1999.
You see, IBM doesn't treat all retirees the same. In fact, employees being hired since 2004 don't
get retiree medical at all (assuming they make it to retirement). IBM went from 'full retiree medical' to 'no retiree medical'.
- Yahoo! message board post by
"madinpok". Full excerpt: For those that may not be familiar with the FHA
plan, for those covered by the FHA, IBM contributes $2500 per year from ages 40 to 50 to a fictional account which earns
low interest until you retire. By the time you are eligible to retire, say at age 55, the account will have $30k or so
in it. The money can only be used to purchase health insurance from IBM. At current prices, the account will last 2 years
or so for an employee plus spouse. After that, you pay 100% out of your own pocket.
- Yahoo! message board post by "madinpok". Full excerpt: If you retired in 1998, you do not have access
to the FHA account. You're one of the lucky ones! The FHA plan was created in 1999 and only employees who were within
5 years of retirement were allowed to stay in the old plan. The FHA represents a major cut in retirement medical benefits
and that fact was not clear to most employees back when it was announced.
For example, under the old plan, if an employee retired at age 55, IBM would contribute $7000 per
year for medical benefits for 10 years until the employee became eligible for medicare at age 65. After that, IBM would
contribute $3000 per year. If the employee lived until age 81, that would represent a total cost to IBM of $118,000.
Under the FHA, IBM cut the amount they contribute to about $30,000 ($25,000 plus interest earned
on the account). Most employees had no idea IBM was taking away a benefit that could be worth over $88,000 and they would
have to make up the difference out of their own pocket.
- Yahoo! message board post by
Janet Krueger. Full excerpt: The Future Health Accounts weren't created until July 1, 1999 -- IBMers who retired before
then, and IBMers who were within 5 years of retirement eligibility at that time, were grandfathered into the 'old' health
care plan. The 'old' health care plan gives you access to health care coverage until you die, but IBM gets to charge you
whatever they choose each year as a 'contribution'.
You don't ever get access to a 'funny money' account, so it never runs out. But IBM doesn't have
to limit your share of the health insurance they provide to the amount you get in your pension check. There are already
a number of retirees who send IBM a check each month, instead of receiving a pension. Good deal, huh?
- Manufacturing and Technology News: Political Appointees
Re-Write Commerce Department Report On Offshore Outsourcing; Original Analysis Is Missing From Final Version. Excerpts:
The Commerce Department has responded to a half-year-old request by Manufacturing and Technology News for the release
a long-awaited study on the issue of "offshore outsourcing" of
IT service-sector jobs and high-tech industries. But the 12-page document represented by the agency as its final report
is not what was written by its analysts. Rather, it was crafted by political appointees at Commerce and at the White House,
according to those familiar with it. At an estimated cost of $335,000 -- or $28,000 per page -- the document MTN received
from the Commerce Department's Technology Administration contains no original research and forsakes its initial intent
of providing a balanced view of outsourcing, according to those inside and outside the agency. [...]
The 12-page version that was released focuses on the allegedly positive impacts for the U.S. economy
of the offshore outsourcing -- and "insourcing" -- of jobs in the IT, semiconductor and pharmaceutical industries,
argue those who have read it. The report quotes research conducted by organizations and individuals that have been funded
by multinationals that benefit from shifting jobs overseas. No mention is made of the conflict of interest inherent
in the studies cited by the Commerce report.
- Atlanta Journal-Constitution: Delta's
retired pilots set to fight. Pension cuts spark feelings of betrayal.
Excerpts: When his monthly pension of $6,500 was slashed by 73 percent two weeks ago, retired Delta Air Lines pilot Wendell
Lewis decided to make a statement. He put his pilot's uniform up for sale on eBay with a starting bid of $1 — along
with a heartfelt description of what the suit had been through before the Boeing 777 captain retired last December. "Suit
comes with a promise of a pension if you provide years of dedication and service," wrote Lewis, of Duluth. "THE
PROMISE MAY BE AS EMPTY AS THE SUIT." [...]
Some recently retired pilots have lost 100 percent of their monthly checks, Gray said. Marcy Eisenburg
of Fayetteville comes close. His monthly pension was cut 95.5 percent, from $6,500 to $300. [...] Like many Delta families,
they are angry that former Chief Executive Leo Mullin and certain other executives walked away with millions in bankruptcy-proof
pensions under a controversial 2002 executive compensation plan. That plan put the nonqualified benefits of Mullin and about
three dozen executives into personal trust funds that became theirs when they left. Executives who'd retired before that
plan, on the other hand, are in the same boat with pilots when it comes to the cutoff of their nonqualified monthly pensions.
- New York Times: The Big
Squeeze. By Paul Krugman. Excerpts: But Delphi's bankruptcy is a much bigger deal
than your ordinary case of corporate failure and bad, self-dealing management. If Delphi slashes wages and defaults on its
pension obligations, the rest of the auto industry may well be tempted - or forced - to do the same. And that will mark
the end of the era in which ordinary working Americans could be part of the middle class. There was a time when the American
economy offered lots of good jobs - jobs that didn't make workers rich but did give them middle-class incomes. The best
of these good jobs were at America's great manufacturing companies, especially in the auto industry.
But it has been a generation since most American workers could count on sharing in the nation's
economic growth. America is a much richer country than it was 30 years ago, but since the early 1970's the hourly wage
of the typical worker has barely kept up with inflation. The contrast between rising national wealth and stagnant wages
has become even more extreme lately. In 2004, which was touted both by the Bush administration and by Wall Street as
a year in which the economy boomed, the median real income of full-time, year-round male workers fell more than 2 percent.
During the 1990's optimists argued that better education and worker training could restore the economy's
ability to create good jobs. Mr. Miller of Delphi picked up that argument as part of his public relations campaign for wage
cuts: "The world pays knowledge workers far more than it pays manual, industrial workers," he said. "And
that's what's sweeping over here." But that's a very 1999 sort of answer. During the technology bubble, it was easy
to believe that "knowledge workers" were guaranteed good jobs. But when the bubble burst, they turned out to be
as vulnerable to downsizing and layoffs as assembly-line workers. And many of the high-paid jobs that vanished when the
technology bubble burst have never come back, partly because they have been outsourced to India and other rising economies.
- New York Times: Saturday
Interview with Nandan M. Nilekani, Merely Following A Megatrend. Excerpts: Is
your job at risk? If it's the type of work that can be done over a wire, then probably yes, says Nandan M. Nilekani, the
chief executive of Infosys Technologies. Infosys is India's second-largest outsourcer. After achieving success in software
engineering and back-office service, it has now begun to compete with companies like I.B.M. for more lucrative consulting
work. This week, Infosys reported that its second-quarter earnings rose 36 percent. It raised its earnings forecast for
the full year on stronger demand and a weaker rupee. In a recent interview, Mr. Nilekani, a chief executive who makes $60,000
a year at a company worth nearly $20 billion, spoke about Infosys's success and the danger that it and other companies like
it pose to American competitors.
- The New Yorker: The Moral-Hazard
Myth. The bad idea behind our failed health-care system. By Malcolm Gladwell.
Excerpts: The U. S. health-care system, according to “Uninsured in America,” has created a group of people who
increasingly look different from others and suffer in ways that others do not. The leading cause of personal bankruptcy
in the United States is unpaid medical bills. Half of the uninsured owe money to hospitals, and a third are being pursued
by collection agencies. Children without health insurance are less likely to receive medical attention for serious injuries,
for recurrent ear infections, or for asthma. Lung-cancer patients without insurance are less likely to receive surgery,
chemotherapy, or radiation treatment. Heart-attack victims without health insurance are less likely to receive angioplasty.
People with pneumonia who don’t have health insurance are less likely to receive X rays or consultations. The death
rate in any given year for someone without health insurance is twenty-five per cent higher than for someone with insurance.
Because the uninsured are sicker than the rest of us, they can’t get better jobs, and because they can’t get
better jobs they can’t afford health insurance, and because they can’t afford health insurance they get even
sicker. John, the manager of a bar in Idaho, tells Sered and Fernandopulle that as a result of various workplace injuries
over the years he takes eight ibuprofen, waits two hours, then takes eight more—and tries to cadge as much prescription
pain medication as he can from friends. “There are times when I should’ve gone to the doctor, but I couldn’t
afford to go because I don’t have insurance,” he says. “Like when my back messed up, I should’ve
gone. If I had insurance, I would’ve went, because I know I could get treatment, but when you can’t afford it
you don’t go. Because the harder the hole you get into in terms of bills, then you’ll never get out. So you
just say, ‘I can deal with the pain.’ ”
One of the great mysteries of political life in the United States is why Americans are so devoted
to their health-care system. Six times in the past century—during the First World War, during the Depression, during
the Truman and Johnson Administrations, in the Senate in the nineteen-seventies, and during the Clinton years—efforts
have been made to introduce some kind of universal health insurance, and each time the efforts have been rejected. Instead,
the United States has opted for a makeshift system of increasing complexity and dysfunction. Americans spend $5,267 per
capita on health care every year, almost two and half times the industrialized world’s median of $2,193; the extra
spending comes to hundreds of billions of dollars a year. What does that extra spending buy us? Americans have fewer doctors
per capita than most Western countries. We go to the doctor less than people in other Western countries. We get admitted
to the hospital less frequently than people in other Western countries. We are less satisfied with our health care than
our counterparts in other countries. American life expectancy is lower than the Western average. Childhood-immunization
rates in the United States are lower than average. Infant-mortality rates are in the nineteenth percentile of industrialized
nations. Doctors here perform more high-end medical procedures, such as coronary angioplasties, than in other countries,
but most of the wealthier Western countries have more CT scanners than the United States does, and Switzerland, Japan, Austria,
and Finland all have more MRI machines per capita. Nor is our system more efficient. The United States spends more than
a thousand dollars per capita per year—or close to four hundred billion dollars—on health-care-related paperwork
and administration, whereas Canada, for example, spends only about three hundred dollars per capita. And, of course, every
other country in the industrialized world insures all its citizens; despite those extra hundreds of billions of dollars
we spend each year, we leave forty-five million people without any insurance. A country that displays an almost ruthless
commitment to efficiency and performance in every aspect of its economy—a country that switched to Japanese cars the
moment they were more reliable, and to Chinese T-shirts the moment they were five cents cheaper—has loyally stuck
with a health-care system that leaves its citizenry pulling out their teeth with pliers.
- Computerworld: Senate
panel votes to boost H-1B visa limit by 30,000. By Grant Gross. Excerpts: The committee
yesterday approved legislation that would expand the cap on H-1B skilled-worker visas from 65,000 to 95,000 in the U.S.
government's fiscal year 2006. The legislation, supported by several IT vendors, expands the H-1B cap
by "recapturing" unused
visas from past years going back to the early 1990s. [...]
Technology trade groups, including the Information Technology
Association of America and Information Technology Industry Council Inc., had pushed for more H-1B visas, saying U.S.
companies need to be able to recruit workers from around the world to compete in a global economy. The Software & Information
Industry Association (SIIA), another trade group, and Microsoft Corp. applauded the committee's support of more visas.
In June, the U.S. Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics reported job losses in five major
engineering and computer job classifications in the first quarter of 2005. Compared with the 2004 average employment, the
number of U.S. computer hardware engineers dropped by 18,000 in the first quarter of 2005, a loss of 19% of those jobs from
the same period in 2004. The number of employed computer software engineers dropped by 13,000, and the number of computer
programmers, electrical and electronics engineers, and computer and information systems managers also dropped in the first
quarter, according to government statistics.
- Rediff India Abroad: IBM unveils global centre
in Bangalore. Excerpts: Global giant IBM on Wednesday announced the opening of a global service delivery centre (GSDC)
in Bangalore, India, significantly expanding its existing operations to meet the growing market demand for IT outsourcing
and management services. The centre will provide local and global clients with command centre services, including remote
monitoring of servers, security operations and network operations, data centre services, including server hosting, server
management and storage management, and IT help desk services.
- Reuters: IBM
workers to get online access to health records. Excerpts: IBM, the world's biggest computer
company, will give its U.S. employees online access to their medical records, making it one of the first large companies
to put workers' health data on the Internet. IBM's roughly 133,000 workers in the United States will have the option to
enroll in the online information system, IBM said in a memo scheduled to be sent to employees early on Wednesday. They can
also sign up their dependents. IBM said in the memo that workers' health records will be kept strictly confidential. Only
employees will have access to their medical records, which are protected by federal privacy and security rules as well as
IBM's own policies.
- BusinessWeek: Penthouses
at 30,000 Feet. The superrich are increasingly buying widebody planes, remodeled
to their own preferences for luxurious living aloft. By Carol Matlack. Excerpts: Think a luxuriously appointed private
Gulfstream or Lear jet is the ultimate way to fly? Not any more. Increasingly, the world's superrich are buying big, big
planes -- the same kind of widebody Boeing (BA) and Airbus jets the airlines use on long-haul flights -- and outfitting
them with everything from his-and-hers bathrooms to onboard movie theaters. "Private jets are becoming flying apartments," says
Jacques Pierrejean, a French designer who specializes in aircraft interiors. [...]
These airborne penthouses cost plenty. New widebodies, such as the Airbus A340 and the Boeing 777,
list for well over $100 million. Even the oldest secondhand widebodies cost at least $10 million. A customized interior
adds $25 million to $30 million, says Edése Doret, a New York-based designer who has outfitted several big planes
for private use. [...]
Time-pressed executives and celebrities also like to bring spouses and friends along when they travel.
The widebodies have space for several guest rooms, as well as entertainment facilities such as big-screen TVs and video-game
consoles. Not all the fun is family-style: New York designer Doret says one of his clients wants to install a pole in his
plane so he can watch strippers dance.
|Vault Message Board Posts
- "Wrong answers" by "MythAndMeaning". Full excerpt: Ignore the other answers posted, they are incorrect. We are desperately
short of SAP staff, are hiring aggressively, and paying well. Unfortunately we are not hiring nearly as fast as staff
are leaving. "Leadership" hasn't figured out that it is cheaper and better to retain existing staff rather
than trying to replace them. We have sold a ton of SAP work we cannot staff, and staff already on work are leaving in
droves. Ask for top dollar. And don't negotiate with HR, they don't control the pursestrings and are clueless. Negotiate
directly with a partner whose practice is hiring.
logic" by "Dose of reality". Excerpts: We have not adjusted our offered hiring salary
ranges, in spite of the fact that we are in a negative roster growth situation. As I said in another thread, we
occasionally pay a "desperation" premium if we have acute project needs to fill, but we have not changed
the hiring strategy from the philosophy of "you are lucky to be able to get the IBM name on your resume -
be grateful for what you get". Do add some color to your "paying well" comment.
- "Be careful..." by "Valkiria". Full excerpt: IBM can be a good refuge in case of need. If your 8 years
of experience is all the experience your have (consulting + industry combined) a low six digits base is not bad
depending on the band they are going to put you. Do not expect to receive the (“target”) bonus and do not
expect to be local. If you are in the DC area and a Government Consultant (whatever that means) you may be local,
but local may be a daily commute of 40-50 miles each way (traffic?), using your car and losing the meals per diem
just to get home late, sleep a few hours and be back on the road again. The use of “local” is not an unusual
hook to trap the uninformed. You need to evaluate the impact of 100 percent travel. This can be that you are on
the road Monday to get to the airport at 4-5 AM to catch the first flight out and return Friday PM or night. You
may hear what you want to hear because IBM may be in a great need for someone with your skills set, but after
that, you are disposable meat. Be worry, very worry and come back to the Board to validate the spoonful you may
get. It is good that you are checking around, good for you.
- "SO as a
place to work" by "Mike Rudd".
Excerpts: From the Alliance@IBM web site, check out this article
on the effects on Customer environments, innovation and employees from engaging IBM SO:
Then ask yourself if this is the kind of environment you want to work in: pissed off Customer, demoralized employees
and mendacious and nit-picking IBM contract managers disguised as Project Executives who live to blame the PM (you)
for all the Customer dissatisfaction.
We also engage in bait-and-switch tactics to win deals: we show the prospective customer (think
Disney) our art of the state Boulder SO site and lead them to think we will support their business from there. If we
somehow stumble into a win, the real location is Columbus, OH (think Disney).
Couple that with increasingly aggressive legal enforcement of the letter of the contracts instead
of being concerned about the Customer's welfare and quite frankly IBM SO is doing its best
to lose further deals by oxidizing
its reputation. We lost a deal in Ohio because the super-aggressive Sales force, including the former president of ISSC,
totally turned the Customer off. Their feedback was "IBM is not a company we want to do business with." Thank
you Dan Colby.
Now to further help you make your decision, the PM arm of SO is run by a totally political female
who laid off 20% of her staff at the beginning of this year and no longer has enough people to staff the few deals IBM
has won. But she is a master of pushing other people in front of the bullets she deserves herself, so her employees are
the lowest of the low on the morale index. SO is no better than BCS. It just employs people with lower expectations so
we don't gripe near as much.
on the Alliance@IBM Site:
- Rick White and CWA Win Big in Fight for Rights.
By Candice Johnson. Excerpt: Rick White is a longtime CWA supporter who worked for IBM Corp. in New York State
for more than 28 years before his work was transferred to Endicott Interconnect Technologies. In December 2002,
White was fired after he responded to an anti-union attack on a public Internet forum. Now, the National Labor
Relations Board has told EIT to reinstate White and restore his nearly three years of lost earnings. The NLRB,
in a 2-1 decision, said that White's comments were protected speech under the National Labor Relations Act and
that White was fired illegally.
- Alliance@IBM: Attention IBM employees:
IBM is blocking e-mail to and from the Alliance@IBM e-mail address firstname.lastname@example.org from
inside the company. Please send your job cut information and other correspondence from
your home e-mail. You can also contact us the following ways: Phone 607 658 9285 or Fax
607 658 9283.
- IBM Pension Lawsuit
FAQ about Cooper v IBM. Updated 10-22-05. By Janet Krueger. Excerpt: Below is a list of frequently asked
questions about the class action lawsuit against IBM's 1995 and 1999 pension plans. The answers are my personal
opinions, have not been verified with either IBM or plaintiffs’ counsel, and should not be construed as
legal advice. On July 31, 2003, a federal district court judge ruled in favor of the employees in this case.
On September 28, 2004, IBM and the legal team on Cooper v IBM announced that an agreement had been negotiated
that settles some of the claims and set the amount of damages that IBM will pay to the class if IBM's appeal
of the district court's age discrimination rulings is unsuccessful. On August 16, 2005, after the August 8 fairness
hearing, Judge Murphy issued an order finalizing the settlement agreement. On August 30, 2005, IBM began the
appeals process by issuing their notice of appeal.
- From the Visitor's comment page:
- Comment 10/18/05: I'm someone on the "new" retirement plan, because on the plan change date, I
had the service years, but not the age. So I basically got shafted there. But, I see some posts here that
say "got laid off just before retirement age", but there is no "age" any more. Now it
is a cashout plan. But the thing that most people never looked into (glad I did, but wish I hadn't) is that
the new cash plan is so back end loaded, the biggest chunk of the cashout is accumulated after some ungodly
number of years. Case in point, I have 18 years now. 42 years old. If I retire and cash out of the plan at
55, I get x. If I work another 10 years, which puts me at 35 years in IBM, I get 3x cash. It is so back end
loaded it's sad. But there's no "age" any more, and while those who "got retired" just
before they were ready, the same would not happen on the new plan, and they can keep us till just into that
last couple of years when we would build the bigger cash balance, assuming of course, anyone would want to
be in IBM that long any more..... -Someone on the new plan-
- Comment 10/19/05: Remember that if you are on the NEW retirement plan, you may be eligible for more money
by asking for what you were entitled to, vested rights, under the OLD plan. In my case, I would have had to
work until 2012 before the value of the NEW plan caught up to the value of the OLD plan, wearaway time. Contact
Retirement services and ask what is the value of your vested rights. -Anonymous-
- Comment 10/21/05: I just read the article you posted on the Alliance@IBM web site about IBM releasing their
current employee's health records to the internet for the employees to access personally. This is amazing!
In the face of privacy issues and identity theft; IBM is trying to break ground with this? Hmmm.. unlike the
article said, I think IBM is feigning the 'practice what it preaches' policy and appearing to entice the health
care and medical industry to follow along, as they have been. Increase sales..more profit..right? What I would
like to see is IBM going all the way and releasing health and medical records of their retirees and former
employees to help with the study of the health effects of the pollution and chemicals that IBM used in the
past 4 decades. Now THAT would really be something! Imagine.. IBM demonstrates that they can be a good corporate
citizen... yeah, right! -Anonymous-